“She’s like, ‘Don’t touch me, don’t pet me. I’m not pleasing you. You come to me.’”
Savannah Guthrie and Jenna Bush Hager are all for snooping on their kids — but don’t call it that.
Guthrie, a mom of two who co-anchors the “Today” show and is the chief legal correspondent for NBC News, is this week’s guest host on Today’s “Jenna and Friends” with Bush Hager, a mom of three.
The two moms shared their thoughts on the “snooping” debate during the Aug. 20 episode of the show.
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“I’m pro snooping,” Guthrie said before changing her stance. “First of all, I don’t like the word snooping. I think it has a negative connotation.”
When asked what word she would use instead, Guthrie said “looking” or “parenting.”
Guthrie went on to clarify that her two kids — Vale, 11, and Charley, 8, whom she shares with husband Michael Feldman, per People — don’t have their own devices yet.
While devices are off the table for now, Guthrie’s daughter does have her own iCloud account.
But it didn’t come easy for the 11-year-old.
“I actually drafted a contract for her to sign,” Guthrie admitted — which Bush Hager admitted she used the contract as well for her own children.
As for what the parent contract said, Guthrie said she kept it simple and straight to the point.
“It was basically, like, ‘I know that Mommy and Daddy love me more than anything in the world,’” she began.
“I know that Mommy and Daddy can read my texts. I know I will not put in a text anything I wouldn’t want grandma and grandpa to see,” she continued.
Guthrie, who said her daughter wouldn’t be watching the show, admitted that she almost never looks at her daughter’s texts because she trusts her.
But still, her daughter understands that Guthrie reserves the right to look if she felt the need to.
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As the conversation continued, Bush Hager revealed that she gave her eldest daughter iCloud access at 10 or 11.
The former First Daughter — her father is former President George W. Bush — shares daughters Mila, 12, and Poppy, 10, and son Hal, 6, with her husband Henry Chase Hager, according to People.
While Mila has access, Bush Hager said that her children don’t have their own devices yet.
Instead, Poppy gives her friends her mom’s number — so she receives all of her text messages.
Guthrie, who went through something similar with her daughter Vale, gave her fellow co-host some more parenting advice to help keep her and her daughter’s conversations separate.
“We moved the chain to WhatsApp,” she said of her conversations with the moms of her daughter’s friends.
WhatsApp, for those who don’t know, is a free, cross-platform messaging and voice-over-IP (VoIP) service owned by Meta.
Guthrie titled the text chain “Moms Strike Back” and included a picture “of the three little girls with an X through it” to let her daughter know that the messages weren’t for her.
“The WhatsApp is the moms,” she continued, “and the little girls took over the other.”
Guthrie’s comments come more than a year after she posted a photo of her “four new norms” for parenting on Instagram.
The new norms included “no smartphones before high school, no social media before 16, phone-free schools and more independence, free play and responsibility in the real world.”
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“We can do it if we stick together,” she wrote in the caption.
